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New recruiting guidelines suggestion
Topic Started: Jan 7 2008, 05:13 PM (318 Views)
titanDA
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Like the topic says, I think we need some new guidelines. Face it, it's impossible to have a hundred person guild purely comprised of random 100-120s. Some of the more active guildies are lower than 70. I think we should start getting some more active, friendly people in a moderate level category, say 70-80. This kind of person is probably more likely to get on and get talking. That's what a guild's about, right?
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Hi lordplasma2! :lol: Due to the way the game (perhaps unfortunately) is designed, a low level guild can only be about talking. A high levelled guild is about bossing and/or talking. The higher level our members are, the more things we will be able to do as a guild. There is no rule that says we must maintain an x number of people in the guild. Personally, I am satisfied with 30 or so loyal members in the guild. We have consistently had well more than twice this number ever since we first hit 100 members almost exactly a year ago. That said, the reason we were able to maintain 100 members formerly is because of me spending nx monthly to smega for the guild. I decided to stop that because I am trying to transition us into a guild that is not reliant on smega recruiting. In other words, whether we maintain 100 members merely is a matter of choice: whether the leadership team is willing to spend enough real money on smegas to achieve that result.

On a side note, I spent 80m of my personal funds to upgrade this cap limit from 30 to 100. Should me or the guild really be penalized for this? A maximum cap is a luxury, not a restriction on how we can run our guild. I levelled 100 levels since forming the guild, and as manager of the guild, I adjusted the level requirements accordingly so that we can evolve to a guild that can do more and have a greater influence in the game. Out of friendship and in respect of "lower-levelled" members' loyalty, they have not been treated any differently from level 100+'s after the level requirements have been raised. I'm not saying that the requirements can't be changed. If the Jrs. all agree that they should be changed, they should petition to me and I will consider it seriously and make the decision with them :P But I appreciate your thoughtfulness in posting and have taken note of your ideas :rolleyes:
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Reposting Omry who made a good post on this topic in the guild bbs :lol:

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Omry: It's not that I like being highest, but as a level 7x, would u stay very long in a guild of mainly 1x and 2x? So that's the reason the upper limit is there. Also, see my reply above, which should answer any remaining questions you have. But I like your post and thank you for your ideas. Hope to see your reply here or in another thead Omry :lol:
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if we lower the lvl limit to 85+ or 90+ more peopl will join peerlees and so the people will be more active.

when u hit lvl 80 u wanna explore more the abilities u have and become stronger so thats why i think we should let 80-90+ join the guild because they lvl fast and reach lvl 100+ im matter on 1-2-3 month
and then other 100+ friends/training partner/random people would like to join.

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Dare, it's true that 80+ people do want to explore new abilities for there class, but 80 for some people is the stopping point, they quit and just hang out.
I myself am still 80 after leveling there about a week ago. (if not longer)
I do plan on leveling sooner or later, but taking some time off will do me good. ;)

-ahem- ANWAYS, xDD level 100s are usually active and are willing to do bossing a lot of the time.
I guess a decrease in the level limit isn't a bad idea though, it would be good to see how it turns out for the guild. :)
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Yeah, or we can start smega recruiting again? I'll donate.
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We can go on trying to recruit 100-120's or whatever, trying to become a 'bossing' guild, but it's obviously not working for us -- Our guildies are only leaving, and because we don't have, say, a rush of 100-120's all at once to make us that bossing guild instantaneously, then any 100-120's that we _do_ recruit really have no reason to stay.

If, however, we recruit 70-120's, then many more players will be able to join, keeping Peerless an active and fun (it's _not_ been much fun recently) guild. If it's fun, then people will stay - perhaps not the 120's, if they just want to boss, but that's okay -- if the level 70's, the 80's stay, then eventually they will reach that 'desired' level of 1xx.

So, as I see it, we've got two choices -- keep recruiting as it is now and just die due to lack of 100-120's, and no big reason for them to stick around, or we can let a whole bunch of lower leveled players join, giving everyone a reason to stay (simply because an active guild is a fun guild), and eventually achieving that 'goal' of being able to Papulatus or Zakum regularly.


If the guild doesn't start growing/changing again soon, I'm going to leave. I don't like it the way it is now. Leadar, you're the only reason I'm still in it. If you plan to stay inactive, then just say so, and I'll be on my way to somewhere else.
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Thanks Austin. I wanna hear from Cloud, Marc, and Lyriele first before thinking of lowering the level requirements to 80 or something like that. If we do that, perhaps it can stay 80-120 until we can make it 100-140 someday. Cloud, Marc, and Lyriele, please chime in. Thanks.

p.s. If you ask me though, Austin, I think our recent ineffectiveness in recruiting is due to: 40% we stopped smegaing, 40% most of them are offrank hackers, 20% a twenty-level recruiting range is a bit narrow. What I would like to hear from you Austin (and others) is how you think we can recruit effectively at a 80-120 level range without smega recruiting.

Edit: LOL marc nice sig! :lol:
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Personally, I agree with Austin. 100%. I know a few people who are interested in joining Peerless at around the 8x level. If we can't sustain a number of loyal 11x-12x's, why keep the recruitment levels there?


My opinion is that: There are a number of 8x+'s that would love to join our guild. I think we should try it instead of leaving it the way it is.

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i think we should be lv80-120 right now and be recruiting but also
when we get bak to 90-100 guild members we need to start expelling the unactive guild members because right now we only got about 25active members and to make it to where we can keep members we need to make an organized way to boss because if you dont boss most ppl will leave guild cause in 4th u need to boss alot to get the skills u need and after we get rid of inactives and r bak to 100 ppl we should bring the lowest lv requirement up slowly and encourage ppl to train and try to be in the lvs of the recruiting requirement
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hey guys....80-120 sounds good. Maybe even 75-120. an active guild is definitely more fun regardless of what lvl they may be and it seems like some of our 1xx don't really mind if the guild is comprised of lower lvls than them.

does anyone have suggestions for how to recruit though? smega recruiting is way expensive...
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even tho im not a jr i still say its a good idea because if there is a lvl 85 in the guild he gets to lvl up to a higher lvl anywayz and they can have fun and chat with guildies and the 1xx all grind or boss because they want to get to a really really high lvl so i think more guildies would have more fun at the lower lvls

but thats just wut i think lol
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How the heck did this post get stickied and responded to like this?

Hehe, just noting that as a low-level in the guild (I have no higher levelled chars on Bera, sorry), having mostly other higher levels/statless pros makes you feel slightly outcast. It continues to be very friendly and active, but as for talking, it's rare, and only a few contribute to conversation. It's because as higher-levels, you have to maintain status by continually playing, fighting and chatting to good friends in buddy chat.

Enough from me, I hope to rejoin in the next 2 weeks or so, being guildless is rather bland as compared to being in Peerless :D
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Why know when you can imagine?

70, and I don't wanna level. Then I get committed, which I can't afford. Peace out Maple.
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